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Was debating on feedbacking this match as soon as I saw both videos on Saturday but I decided to wait a few days to see if I still felt the same emotions I did after first watching the two videos. And I still do. These two videos have become my favorite MMVs (or edits) ever in the past 3 days. Both videos brought out a shit ton of emotions.
Pick: This shit is crazy man, the movie was perfectly explained in a span of 3 minutes. I kinda of saw this as a sequel to SWLs MMV from last year where the themes of both videos are similar - that being Stockholm syndrome. And you even used a Radiohead song just like his "All I Want" video. It was also kind similarly edited with a black and white cc on certain parts with some colorful flares throughout the video, and a lot of crossfades! And just like his, the effects, transitions and slow pace of editing give it an aesthetically pleasing look regardless of the dark tone of the film your showcasing. Absolutely love the "Stockholm Syndrome" text. The T designed as a cross was a perfect touch to foreshadow or give a hint that the video will be about cults (since they usually associate themselves with crosses). Heck, even the drawing of the bear on fire at the start was a huge foreshadowing of the ending of the video. I was a huge fan of the way you structured this video. Instead of displaying most details other editors would that may seem important, you mainly focus on moments that convey with what you want the viewers to get out of this video. Each part transitions well to the next one, and the voice overs, as well as effects, does a great job on being a great add on to these transitions. Especially the voice over and masking effect at 0:49, with the voice over being a good transition to the next clip, and the masking effect on the window providing the viewers more details without cutting to another clip. The same goes with split screen effect you used to explain the hypnotization of the Boyfriend, which does the same job as the 0:49 section where it doesn't waste any second of the video and gives meaning to every part and clip being used. Also loved the section at 1:51 where the voice over was used as a setup for the horrifying clip that would follow. The clip placement and selection is just too amazing! Clips like the one where the camera on the road is upside down or the clip where Florence is looking up at the tree at 1:33, really give that hallucinating vibe one gets when watching the film. Especially since there placed at the right parts of the song where the melody feel relaxing and dreamy. The last thrid of the video makes the viewer understand as to why this video is called "Stockholm Syndrome". She starts realizing that she prefers being at this cult place where she's being treated as a queen rather than going back to the real world where people hurt her. So while others might see this place to be hell, she sees it as her dream world. And that sequence at 3:05-3:25 really does a beautiful job at summing-up the whole video. Excellent excellent work Pick!
Reed: Dude...I seriously can't explain or describe how much I love this video. I haven't even fucking watched "Waves" dude, and yet I feel like I know what happens after watching this. I've been watching this video non stop ever since you showed me it, and yeah I think this might be the best video I've seen since I've been on the board. Fuck it, this is my favorite video ever! I'm sure they'll be some who'll critique you for using Frank Ocean again, but this is the best use of Frank Ocean that you've done. Rushes doesn't even compare to how beautiful this is IMO. I feel like this is your most personal and ambitious video yet along with your Sugar vid, and feels more unique from the rest of your works. Although, the video is obviously about the film "Waves", I get a sense that it's also personal in some way. At this point we all know how much Frank Ocean means to you, but this song in particular seems to have a connection to you. Maybe that's why you named the video "what a song means" since its your interpretation of the song. And "Waves" was the perfect example to showcase your feelings for "self control". The live performance of FO mixed in with the film was very unique. It's been done in wrestling edits, but don't know if it's been done before for MMVs. This different structure almost feels as if the film is being shown to the audience of the concert as a background for the song. Damn, this really was the perfect film to showcase with this song. The protagonist is blonde and self control is from the album "blonde"! GENIUS!!! This whole video really makes you question how you should feel about the protagonist. Throughout the first 4 minutes we see his struggles. Regardless of being an athlete and having a perfect relationship, he has to deal with his girlfriend becoming pregnant and his father's relationship - with his father being hard on him to become an accomplished wrestler. And even though he loses a match his father shows no sympathy for him, which shows that the protagonist is being taught to be more "manly" while having little passion from his father. His gf then breaks up with him and he realizes that she's with another guy which was his ultimate breaking point, not being able to "control" the emotions he'd been bottling up. A lot of the crossfades transitions we're so damn beautiful. Like the one at 2:58 with the protagonist and his sister sticking their head out the window, or the camera spin around the camera transitioning from the protagonist gf to his sister. Though, my favorite transition is the one at 4:12 where the father pushes the protagonist and then it transitions to his gf pushing him, kind of showing the problems and arguments he's creating with the numerous relationships he's apart of. Every time I watched this video I get chills at 4:15-4:25. You did a fantastic job at structuring all of this, but placing the clips you did at those timestamps were perfect. The song having such a peaceful melody is perfectly juxtaposed with the horrifying screams and chaotic scenes happening in those clips. And the blue and red flares on the camera were so fucking beautiful and it really adds an extra emotional feel to that clip sequence. The voice overs and clips from the sister and the dad of her being angry, and him contemplating what he could have done to stop his son from acting the way he did, and then telling her to do her best to just show as much love as she can, were heartbreaking. Goddamn, this was a tear jerker. And the last clip of her riding her back down the road was excellent. This is too damn beautiful man. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
MOTY. Probably my favorite match since I've been on this site. Marvelous work guys! Hope Pick keeps making more MMVs in the future, and I hope Reed stops making me cry with these videos. Gonna go wash off the tears on my face now.
Last Edit: Jul 13, 2020 22:56:41 GMT -5 by sarcastic
HTW: Really solid work here as always here Reed, it`s evident you know how to really set a mood in your MMVs and this is no exception. The song was so perfect here and played so well with your subject matter and the pacing. I loved the cuts between the movie footage and concert footage, I thought that was real nice touch. I couldn`t believe when I finished this MV that it was six and a half minutes long because it felt like a breeze and that`s the number one mark of an excellent, entertaining MV. I see no flaws in this one honestly, great work as always!
Pick: Ashamed to admit I haven`t watched Midsommar but I`ll be damned if after watching this MV that I want to watch it now more than ever. You could not have picked a better song here man it just has that perfect mix of creepy yet a subtle hint of somberness, which plays so damn well into the story of this seemingly peaceful retreat which turns horrifically sour. I`m so glad you didn’t go overboard with an effects and the little things like the split screens and overlays you used were perfectly executed. This was a perfect MMV, another flawless piece of work.
Winner: Damn, this may be the match of the event because these were two fantastic MMVs. It`s a coin flip honestly but I give the slight edge to HTW.
Frank Ocean Simp: Wonder what you will do once you use all Frank Ocean's songs released. Would like to start off with beejs biggest pet peeve and say I ain't watched this film and I would like to just say that to all the MMVs for this comp but man this video was outstanding! This is my one of my favourites from this comp, had such a smooth relaxing vibe to it throughout and it told a great story. The use of voiceovers was really great and helped tell the story really well. You made the movie look really interesting in this, the editing was on point and it was a nice watch, great work dude.
pick: Dude, are you trying to be SWL? Asking for a friend. The title graphics in this was really nice and you started this video off really well. That masking clip was really cool, did you do that in Vegas though as it looks in some frames as if the clip was chucked on top of the curtain. The lyrical syncing throughout was great and you told the story to the song really well. The clip of that guy jumping off the clip was really fucking surprising, happy you added the voice over on that as when he hit that rock I felt that! You transition to MMVs very well man tremendous job, would like to see more from you.
Reed: Wow, what a ride this was. Sad boii Reed is back at it again. I don't care if you use Frank Ocean one time or a hundred times, you knock it out of the park every time. You two are an iconic duo at this point, kinda like me and Daniel Bryan videos. I loved that you used the concert version of the song as well as the footage for this. It gave it a very different feel and atmosphere. The VHS effect/overlay over the concert footage looked really nice and was a great touch. I like that you've always kept your movie footage clean and without any form of color correction, it's just your thing and it always looks clean. Once again you prove that you are an absolute master at finding the best clips and you string them together to create art. For instance the clips at 4:10-4:14 is a perfect example. Another thing that really stands out in this is how you used the voiceovers from the movie and blended it perfectly with the music, 3:35 the audio levels were perfect. Honestly, can't critique you on anything at this point. Fantastic job as always!
Pick: This was really awesome! Presentation was top notch as per usual, loved the intro sequence. The MMV itself had a sad vibe to it as well as creepy. Voiceover and clip selection work were equally as brilliant. If I had to nit pick one thing it would be the mask at 0:38. Everything about it worked, but the way it just suddenly appeared threw me off just a tiny bit. The effect at 1:03 was a lovely touch. Everything past 3:00 felt like an absolute trip and I loved it. The crossfades were done to perfection and the subtle RGB effect was really great. I do think the comparisons to SWL's MMV from last year are a little out there and unfair, because you've used Radiohead before in your Guinea Pigs video which is still one of my favorite videos from you. Great work again!
Vote: Reed. Awesome match! Hope Beej & Reed keep luring each other to having more MMV matches. Also, would love to see what a Pick vs Paroxysm MMV match would be like.
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Pick: Man what a excellent video! Your editing and masking skills are insane! There so many eye popping details throughout the video either if those are technical or storytelling wise, like the ones at 0:39. Those graphics in the beginning looked so sick. Loved that trip where you upsided it down giving a representation of the mental state of the character. Loved that sin city used in her sister's corpse made it hella brutal to watch. This movie looks raw which is something rare to see, and I think you made such a great job recapping it in 4 minutes. Loved that scene where she started to have a mental trip and the use of the double screen. That part where she was smiling and suddenly looked extremly anxious to all those crossfades to her her smiling again was the true icing in the cake, truly incredible. Also that part of her partner burning in that house and then you showed her once again smiling and mixing both scenes made such a sick contrast. It pretty much made me understand the solid part of the movie. Overall, excellent stuff!
Reed: Yeah this was really great stuff. I really digged the whole vibe of that this was gonna be a typical romance but man this into something hard to watch. Loved the insertion of Frank's concert throught the video. Really thought you made good use of the lyrics and the self control topic really fit this movie. The aspect ratio in this looked great too. Tbh I can't really nitpick on this, it was really well done. Voiceover IMO worked really nicely and I got a great watch out of this. Great work Reed.
Pick: I was one of the only people I know that really didn't care for this movie. I will say this though, I wish the film was as succinct as your video. You didn't meander - you got to the point quickly and everything in the video felt important and contributed to the overall story. You clearly have always had a knack for storytelling, even in your wrestling videos, and that talent serves you wonderfully with MMVs. Your technical skills are top tier, so those aren't even worth breaking down. Overall, I think the best compliment I can give is that I'd tell someone who's never seen the movie to skip it, and just watch this instead. It's better.
Reed: I gave you my thoughts a few weeks ago, so I won't regurgitate those again too much. I will say that this felt personal in ways that I'm not meant to grasp. I have a feeling that maybe this is kind of like your "World Spins Madly On"...meant to be personal, and not really for anyone else. Although it does function well as an MMV, and can be enjoyed by those not in the know. I know how much this film means to you, and while I'm still unfamiliar with it, I have a good grasp on its themes from your beautiful editing and voice over work. I didn't understand the Frank Ocean live footage, or the title of the video to be honest, but again, I don't think I'm supposed to. This felt like a distillation of my friend in video form, and that's good enough for me. A fitting finale to your Frank Ocean saga...if it is a finale, that is.
Reed: I think a lot went over my head here but damn it was a ride and I enjoyed it either way, One thing I knew when things weren't going bad for this guy at the start he was in for one hell of a down slide. I dug the way you chose to highlight his sister albeit confusing at first I think I was halfway in when I realized it was his sister at first I thought it was his gf cheating on him with another guy. The lyric syncs in this were cool af my favorite being the spinal cord cracking on on his wrestling injury and I liked the inclusion of not only voice overs but little stuff like his pills rattling in the bottle I feel like positives could be pointed out on this all day the atmosphere was perfect especially when he really started going downhill hard drinking and affecting the lives of his family.
Pick: Man this was a trippy ride the commercials for this movie didn't do it nearly as much justice as your video the vibe of the song and your choice in clips presented the cult perfectly and your coverage of her mental state declining and slowly beginning to think she belongs with these crazy fucks. I loved the echo effect around 1:03 it was a small effect but I liked how it complimented the mental state, the mask at 38 was a little sudden feel like had you masked out the window frame duped it and played with the blending mode on the clips between the top and bottom layers would have looked nice but it still worked well with your idea only a nitpick not a problem, my favorite part was the way you ended it with her smiling after what I assume was her boyfriend maybe just close friend idk got burned alive felt perfect for the subject while I don't think I would like this movie you have a knack for making them look wonderful you did the same thing with that prison movie I didn't like it but I liked your video.
Vote - This match took me longer than any of the others to vote for you both presented very dark videos but in their own different way it was a pretty cool dynamic to me the sad then holy shit crazy cult vibe vs life becoming too much and losing control after a lot of thought I'm going with Reed.
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HTW: First of all I really loved how you used clips from a concert, it was a nice idea. Lyrical syncs and transitions were amazing and creative. You told the story perfeclty. Voiceovers were really well used as well. Your MMVs are so professional, and you get better every single video you make. Amazing job!
Pick: The way you use effects are so creative! I liked every single detail in this one. Especially the one when she was having a mental breakdown, the effect looked simple but it was very effective. Really good work, I guess it was my first time watching an MMV from you and I really liked it!
HTW: This felt like the climax (pause) to all of your work! Very ambitious edit, I didn't really look at this as just an MMV rather than a video of art that means something to you. You always do a really great job picking scenes to not only tell the story but to captivate the viewer. Usually different aspect ratio changes bug me but I didn't mind it at all here, the VHS looked pretty clean too. Overall really beautiful work man!
Pick: I'm so glad you covered this film as it was one of my favorites last year! This was really clean man. Something that you did really well was telling the whole story in under 5min without it feeling rushed which says a lot about your ability. The flashback section near the end was pretty incredible, I loved how you were able to do really compelling edits like that without having to be over the top with effects or anything. This was pretty great, nice work per usual!
Reed: In the beginning I was a bit confused what the story was but soon you went straight to the point and cleared it all up! I like how you told the story in easy to follow progressive way. Inserting footage and song version from Frank's concert was an interesting choice, it gave video a more realistic feeling which was really nice. Clip choice was spot on and everything had a beautiful flow. Overall really beautiful and emotional ride!
Pick: Wow what a strong vibe right from the start! Editing was just incredible, loved that effect in the window and that echo effect. Transitions were so smooth and really made some scenes even more beautiful. I would have also appreciated NSFW warning btw lmao. Video was just beautiful with so many subtle hints to the character which complemented the edit, I really enjoyed this one!
Pick - Great work. Did a great job recapping the movie, and set a very eery/creepy vibe in combination with the song. Definitely made me want to check it out. Great clip selection, very clean and professional editing. Sorry for the short feedback, but I've got nothing to critique. Great job!
HTW - I'm not gonna pretend that I really got this. I don't get the live performance footage, or what the song means, and all that. Like beej said, I'm sure there's a lot of personal meaning to it, which I'm not really privy to. With all that being said, you are definitely a master at setting a mood, picking a song to support it, and then driving it home. You definitely took your time to introduce the characters and set the mood, but then that really pays off when you have a dramatic plot development like we have here. Of course feels much more impactful if it feels like we've got to kmow the (main) character. Her death was handled very well, with the cut to black, thud, and then the changed aspect ratio. That's the moment everyhting changed, and expressing that in the aspect ratio is very clever. Very unique video.
Reed My favorite editor is at it again. There's that confused, bittersweet feeling again too. Like Moonlight and like Requiem, you masterfully choose a song I'm going to like and you juxtapose that vibe with a sense of uneasiness through your film choices. Self control is a top Frank song for me. Never seen or heard this film before (Sterling K is literally the only familiarity I had in this). But the way you combine them, Self Control's soul with Waves' tragedy, and create this sort of counterbalanced dynamic makes me love it even more and I think you're the only person capable of doing such a thing so seamlessly. Love the inclusion of the concert footage mixed in with the film. It's like you get the full musical concert experience to accompany the theatrical experience. Story-wise, there were a few holes that I needed to figure out, and after visiting the film's wiki for the plot summary, I'd say the way you structured it makes much more sense. Selfishly, I hope you never stop making videos and I'm stoked to hear what you got planned in the Winter. Please use American Wedding.
Alec Cults are fascinating to me. The way they break you down and build you back up, the brainwashing, the mind control, all that shit. You did a damn good job in conveying that cult culture here. Your ability as a wrestling editor is undeniable, you are one of the best around. And I knew you wouldn't be too shabby as a film editor, especially because your last mv on the Stanford Prison Experiment was great. But I think this puts you amongst the MV d'Or elite, along with AD, Beej, HTW, Claymore, HY2J, Eric, etc. Your retelling of this film is absolutely superb. I've been meaning to see Midsommar since it came out, but I put my trust in Beej where he said that this was better than the film itself. That's always a commendable job anytime an editor accomplishes that, and I definitely feel like I took in the entire film based off your rendition. That "splat" at 1:55... *chef's kiss. Loved that shot at the end as Dani's smile just gets wider and wider. They got her! On a side note, this cult is probably not for me. I think I only counted 1, maybe 2 minorities in there. Already know I'm getting sacrificed first.
My favorite match of the comp! Between my two sons, nonetheless! Reed and Alec just go hand in hand as opponents, and maybe even more so as a tag-team??? This gets tougher the more I continue to think it over. At this moment in time, Reed.
Reed - You know I like you. You know I respect you. You know I've enjoyed your videos in the past. But I'll be honest, this video was fighting an uphill battle with me the whole way. All the big emotional moments felt like payoffs that were missing the setup. Like there was a lot of context that I wasn't getting. So I couldn't really appreciate what was going on. I couldn't really vibe with it as a mood piece either because all the shouting that was going on kept breaking up the flow of the song. What I was left with was simply trying to appreciate it on a technical level. In that sense, it was well done--I always understood why you would cut a shot when you did, I didn't get the shifting aspect ratios but they never felt like a distraction, and the addition of the concert footage added a visual element beyond simply summing up a movie. I can't say I felt any kind of emotional reaction myself, but you did a good job showcasing the kind of movie (I assume) this is.
Pick - I enjoyed this a lot. You did a great job taking a movie that really tried my patience and summing up all it's strongest elements in capsule form. There was some really clever shorthand in the way you told the story. The composite shot of the body bag appearing in the window captured cause and effect in one image. The split screen with the drawings in one frame being matched by actions in the other was another nice touch. The "what happens at 72?" line being answered visually made me laugh in a perverse sort of way--this, by the way, was a reaction the movie never got from me even though it was trying so damn hard. Some incredibly smooth transitions making use of the film's fluid cinematography. And just a great sustained atmosphere throughout thanks to a brilliantly chosen song. Excellent stuff. I think you told Ari Aster's story better than he knew how to tell it.
I've never seen the source material of either video, so my judgement's pretty much unclouded.
HTW - There's a few disconnects with me on this one. Some of the context is missing, like the main character being told "We R Over"; I have no clue what the drama is about or what led to it. If I had seen the movie, I probably would've felt more from it this. I think you visually paired some of the scenes well with the lyrics, and from a technical stand point it's pretty solid. Some clips tend to over-stay their welcome or are repeated (like the driving scenes, but I assume it's a big part of the film). Just a few bits and piece that could've been cleaned up imo.
Pick - Really enjoyed the camera motions syncing with the lyrics in this one. I have no idea what the fuck was going on with the tubes in people's mouths lol. That dude jumping into the rock freaked me out lmao. This was so twisted. I enjoyed it, but it felt super odd to me. I guess I don't really understand the personal attachment to it or the story being told. It's still nice on the eyes though.
sarcastic: What's up Papi?
Apr 30, 2019 23:24:17 GMT -5
Papi Chulo: wassup
May 3, 2019 21:39:43 GMT -5
Josh: can anyone give me an idea on what this is about?
May 24, 2019 23:01:30 GMT -5
silvermalin: Anyone got an idea where I can find any football (soccer) clips for a video?
Jun 21, 2019 5:33:53 GMT -5
sarcastic: It depends what type of football footage you're looking for? I'm sure you'll be able to find a lot of matches or even interviews on YouTube. Another place you can look for is on kickasss.to or kickasstorrents.ee.
Jun 22, 2019 23:03:40 GMT -5