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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 9:20:35 GMT -5
Post by Maf on Sept 10, 2011 9:20:35 GMT -5
How important is song choice?
Just how important is song choice when watching a video? Does song choice have the potential to ruin a video? Does it have the potential to help a video?
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 9:25:04 GMT -5
Post by Maf on Sept 10, 2011 9:25:04 GMT -5
Song choice is very important to me when watching a video. Most of the time, if I don't like the song you're using I probably won't like the video. I know it's not a really fair point to judge a video on but I just can't help it. There are exceptions though, for example I hated iMG's song in his Overdose video but I still really like the video. I guess if a video is good enough, I'll probably like it despite the song choice.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 10:36:13 GMT -5
Post by AD on Sept 10, 2011 10:36:13 GMT -5
It comes down to whether or not the song fits the subject. If a song I don't like fits the subject of the video I can still enjoy the video as long as the editing and all that is done well. On the other hand, if a song I do like is used poorly with a subject that doesn't fit well, it can kill the video for me. The song is the number one factor in setting the tone of the video, and if you don't have that synergy between song and subject then you're pretty much fucked from the start.
But of course, there are a few songs that I just can't stand to hear under any circumstances, and those will ruin my enjoyment of anything they're associated with.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 13:21:19 GMT -5
Post by limericklad on Sept 10, 2011 13:21:19 GMT -5
Song is pretty much the X factor of videos IMO. It can ruin an otherwise good video, it can take a good video and make it great. As AD said, how appropriate it is for the subject matter is vital too. Maybe moreso than the actual quality of the song.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 16:45:55 GMT -5
Post by Rev on Sept 10, 2011 16:45:55 GMT -5
Agree with most of what guys said. If the song fits the subject to a tee, then I can find enjoyment whether I like the song or not. There are some exceptions though, such as a Breaking Benjamin song or Disturbed. When matches are too close to call though, I resort back to my personal enjoyment, so the song choice will come into effect.
Of course, re-used songs also affect my judgement, especially if the prior video is a widely-known mv. I may let it slide if the prior video isn't that known. But if you use, say No Bravery or We Can Overcome songs, I will count that against you.
And to bring it up as well, I hate it when people use the subject's theme song for the overall video. It's not done too often, but when it is, it annoys me. I'd rather people stick to originality. However, it's fine if its just a snippet and is used to introduce a character.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 22:30:38 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 22:30:38 GMT -5
^^Goof made a great video using Christians theme as the actual song choice. While I share that same feeling, if it's executed well then it shouldn't matter.
It's really execution to keep it short and sweet. Can't really base a video just on the song as everyone has different preferences, so if you're judging based on that alone then it's not a fair review.
To kind of make an example of that, HJA's recent video got a lot of unneeded slack just on song choice alone imo. I personally thought he used it well and actually profiled the wrestler very well as I got an understanding of his in-ring work. But thought a good amount of guys lost sight of that just cause he used a song that's been used tons of times or is considered "generic".
I understand that guys want to see something different and song choice is that 1st step, but it shouldn't cloud your thoughts if someone doesn't exactly meet your needs. I have my preferences, but still try to base my reviews on overall execution. Reviews and overall thoughts are mainly the same since you're basing a video on your overall thoughts(in some cases you're more objective when reviewing though).
You can also tie in things like experience, but that's a little off topic.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 23:11:12 GMT -5
Post by Maf on Sept 10, 2011 23:11:12 GMT -5
I think that with HJA's video, the reason he got a lot flack was not because of the type of music but because it's been used so many times. I feel that's a legitimate complain mainly because there's so much you can do when editing to a song so your bound to do similar things than what others have done. Besides half of a music video is the music and I feel people should put as much effort into finding a good song as they do editing a video. Although that gets a bit tricky because what constitutes a good song varies from person to person.
On the thought of it not being fair judging videos based on their song choice, I feel it is a legitimate point in the video. You saying its based on execution is true but I don't really think the editing in a video has to be the be all end all form of deciding if a video is good or not. I judge videos on my personal enjoyment, so it doesn't really matter to me if you have a perfectly synced video or a video with almost no sync, if I enjoyed it then I consider it a good video. Of course, most likely I'm going to enjoy a well edited video but that's not really what I base my enjoyment of the video on.
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MV? #6
Sept 10, 2011 23:55:07 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 23:55:07 GMT -5
I didn't mean just editing(though very important) when I mentioned execution. It's really on how you use the song period which was what most have mentioned. I also mentioned about HJA's song being overly used which imo shouldn't be a heavy factor, especially in his case just from reading most of the reviews. It might not hold up high in concern of you enjoying the video, but if you're reviewing and voting in a video or match, you have to base your votes on who executed their video the best, not on which video you enjoyed the most. You can make exceptions if both videos are fairly even though.
If you base it on what you enjoyed more, then it'll be basically on preferences alone which goes back to the song choice discussion. So it's just too many factors when you base your thoughts on preference alone for me which is why I based my thoughts here on reviewing and voting as you have to look at the video itself instead of randomly watching something on youtube or something. It makes you a bit more open, though in some ways make you a tool aswell cause you seem to adjust to what's in front of you. Think that's what you need though to make the most logical decisions.
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MV? #6
Sept 11, 2011 10:54:11 GMT -5
Post by Maf on Sept 11, 2011 10:54:11 GMT -5
You bring up some good points but eh, I can't seem to wrap my head around the thought of voting for whoever executed the video the best. You're voting for what you feel is the better video, which is personal preference already but we're getting into a discussion for another time. Maybe next weeks question?
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MV? #6
Sept 11, 2011 13:32:09 GMT -5
Post by J-Roc on Sept 11, 2011 13:32:09 GMT -5
It comes down to whether or not the song fits the subject. If a song I don't like fits the subject of the video I can still enjoy the video as long as the editing and all that is done well. On the other hand, if a song I do like is used poorly with a subject that doesn't fit well, it can kill the video for me. The song is the number one factor in setting the tone of the video, and if you don't have that synergy between song and subject then you're pretty much fucked from the start. But of course, there are a few songs that I just can't stand to hear under any circumstances, and those will ruin my enjoyment of anything they're associated with. Couldn't agree more, tbh.
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