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Post by Ryan "React" Raze on Jul 16, 2011 13:58:03 GMT -5
So, I'm wondering if anyone here is a fan of foreign horror films, or "extreme" horror?
I've been watching a bunch lately, and am wanting someone to talk to about them.
Specifically: Martyrs, Inside, Eden Lake...
Anyone?
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Post by Rev on Jul 16, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
Does Tokyo Gore Police count? If so, saw it months ago and hated it. Though the gun that shoots arms may be the greatest weapon ever thought of.
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Post by Ryan "React" Raze on Jul 17, 2011 14:48:18 GMT -5
Not exactly, if you can stomache some pretty brutal scenes, I'd suggest checking out Martyrs or Inside. Really, really good stuff.
I just can't find anyone else to watch them :-\ It's not gore for the sake of gore, it's actually a really well put together film.
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Post by RyanGoslingFan99 on Jul 18, 2011 10:45:17 GMT -5
I actually have Martyrs, Inside and Eden Lake on my que. I was on a foreign horror quick a few years ago but wandered away from it. I'm not a big fan of extreme horror but have watched flicks like Ichi the Killer.
I'll watch the three you mentioned and get back to you. A few other foreign horror films you can check out are Audition, Infection and the Ju-on series.
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Post by Harry on Jul 18, 2011 13:22:48 GMT -5
Cannibal Holocaust.
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Post by AD on Jul 18, 2011 16:23:38 GMT -5
You might consider checking out the South Korean movie "I Saw the Devil." It's not a horror movie, more of a revenge thriller, but it certainly is extreme. I thought it was a little too "awesome" for it's own good, but it does have some interesting ideas about the nature of vengeance, and the two lead actors (Choi Min-sik of "Oldboy" and Lee Byung-hun of "A Bittersweet Life") are fantastic.
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Post by Her 69 Eyes on Jul 18, 2011 17:03:05 GMT -5
Animal slaughter for "entertainment."
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Post by Harry on Jul 18, 2011 17:33:43 GMT -5
I haven't watched the original cut for that exact reason, but there's still plenty of PETA-friendly powerful imagery.
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Post by Ryan "React" Raze on Jul 19, 2011 7:03:37 GMT -5
You might consider checking out the South Korean movie "I Saw the Devil." It's not a horror movie, more of a revenge thriller, but it certainly is extreme. I thought it was a little too "awesome" for it's own good, but it does have some interesting ideas about the nature of vengeance, and the two lead actors (Choi Min-sik of "Oldboy" and Lee Byung-hun of "A Bittersweet Life") are fantastic. I did watch that movie and liked it a lot. It was a little over hyped for me, as my core of friends thought it was better then Old Boy. Old Boy is one of my favorite revenge movies ever, so going into it I had pretty high expectations. I actually would have liked the movie a lot more if it were about 10-15 minutes shorter. I understand film making is different, and they are very big on long, drawn out scenes where the cameras focus is on one character and their emotional state. I felt there were too many of these in this film. I also found the ending somewhat disappointing and abrupt. I was hoping he would receive 1 more round of torturous beatings. It might sound like I only had bad things, but outside of the above I liked everything about it. It was shot very well, the villain was excellent, and the main character was fantastic. I still rate it higher then Sympathy for Mr/Mrs, but not over Old Boy. Have you seen Thirst?
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Post by Ryan "React" Raze on Jul 19, 2011 7:06:06 GMT -5
I've seen Audition and Ju-On. Those were both very good. I thought the original Shutter was pretty scary too. Martyrs isn't really scary, it's just brutal. It's like you get two movies in one, with a pretty good twist and you really feel for the characters. I really enjoyed Martyrs. Inside isn't scary like, "Boo", it's scary like intense. It's the most graphic movie I've ever seen, so that turns people off. That being said, it is perfectly made, and everything in it flows very well. Great characters and great atmosphere. It's just pretty brutal to watch sometimes. Eden Lake was really good, and one of the few times I just felt terribly for the main character. That one isn't "foreign", but it's Australian. Very good movie. I really enjoyed Rec and Rec2. I thought those were both really solid flicks as well. I actually have Martyrs, Inside and Eden Lake on my que. I was on a foreign horror quick a few years ago but wandered away from it. I'm not a big fan of extreme horror but have watched flicks like Ichi the Killer. I'll watch the three you mentioned and get back to you. A few other foreign horror films you can check out are Audition, Infection and the Ju-on series.
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Post by AD on Jul 19, 2011 14:21:27 GMT -5
I have, indeed. It's probably my second favorite Park Chan-wook movie at the moment. "Lady Vengeance" being number one (I know I'm in the minority on that one).
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Post by Her 69 Eyes on Jul 19, 2011 22:46:11 GMT -5
I also found the ending somewhat disappointing and abrupt. I was hoping he would receive 1 more round of torturous beatings.Are you being serious with that statement? That contradicts everything that the film is (or intends to be) about, and particularly it goes against what you've told me in the past (that you're interested in these films for their plots, not their violence). I was with I Saw the Devil for a long time, but I finally decided that it was a lousy film when it became clear that it was over two hours of pure hypocrisy. Much of it is about addressing the morality of revenge movies - in fact, the whole premise is that the person seeking revenge is no less a monster than the man who committed the murder. This is clear because several times throughout the film, the "good guy" is referred to by objective, extraneous characters as just that - a monster. I think that's a wonderfully mature spin on what I often find to be an irredeemably childish, morally despicable genre. Then, of course, the film begins to revel in its violence, and everything that it has to say about the morality of vengeance thrillers is completely thrown out the window. I am also a big fan of Thirst.
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Post by AD on Jul 20, 2011 0:02:18 GMT -5
I was with I Saw the Devil for a long time, but I finally decided that it was a lousy film when it became clear that it was over two hours of pure hypocrisy. Much of it is about addressing the morality of revenge movies - in fact, the whole premise is that the person seeking revenge is no less a monster than the man who committed the murder. This is clear because several times throughout the film, the "good guy" is referred to by objective, extraneous characters as just that - a monster. I think that's a wonderfully mature spin on what I often find to be an irredeemably childish, morally despicable genre. Then, of course, the film begins to revel in its violence, and everything that it has to say about the morality of vengeance thrillers is completely thrown out the window. You know what? I had the exact same thoughts you had while watching the movie (that's sort of what I was getting at when I said it was too "awesome" for it's own good), and yet I still found it to be compelling. Maybe it's simply a case of our brains being wired differently, maybe your just a much better person than I am, but I won't deny that I enjoyed that movie. Perhaps even in spite of myself. Though I will say that they did finally lose me at the very end with the whole Rube Goldberg machine of death used to decapitate the killer. In defense of my emotions, I will say that, for me personally, the film's pleasures were all about watching two of the best film actors in the world do what they do best. Lee Byung-hun, in particular, I think is one of the three or four best "movie star" types in the world right now. There's a silent intensity to that guy that I find completely hypnotizing. "A Bittersweet Life" (also from director Kim Jee-woon) is a much better example of his talents, but even in a flawed film like "I Saw the Devil" his screen presence is undeniable. And, of course, nobody does over the top crazy better than Choi Min-sik.
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Post by RyanGoslingFan99 on Jul 20, 2011 11:43:53 GMT -5
I know it's off topic but The Man From Nowhere was a good revenge type movie.
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Post by Ryan "React" Raze on Aug 17, 2011 9:07:31 GMT -5
I am being serious actually. I do understand how it seems contradictory to everything I've said before, but I felt that he could have suffered a little bit more. I do recognize the fact that the films entire purpose was to show that the protagonist was no better then the antagonist. That he became the monster he was looking to destroy. I felt that he could have suffered a little bit more. I thought his method of dying was a bit lack luster. For the pain that he inflicted on others, I wasn't convinced he received his fair share back. I know it was a final act of vengeance and that the main character felt dirt, defeated and complete at the end; but I wanted a little bit more. I did enjoy the film and story. The gore wasn't crazy, but it was solid enough. I began to enjoy the terror that he inflicted on his villain opponent, but again, I felt unsatisfied with the ending. I'm not sure how I would have written it differently as I saw it some time ago, but I remember thinking, "Well, they probably could have done that a little better". I know it is heavily praised in all corners, but I still enjoyed Oldboy more. I thought Oldboy had a better finish and was more thought provoking. I didn't have any lingering thoughts after "I saw the devil". I really enjoyed Thirst as well. I thought that was a film that portrayed vampires in an excellent manner. I also found the ending somewhat disappointing and abrupt. I was hoping he would receive 1 more round of torturous beatings.Are you being serious with that statement? That contradicts everything that the film is (or intends to be) about, and particularly it goes against what you've told me in the past (that you're interested in these films for their plots, not their violence). I was with I Saw the Devil for a long time, but I finally decided that it was a lousy film when it became clear that it was over two hours of pure hypocrisy. Much of it is about addressing the morality of revenge movies - in fact, the whole premise is that the person seeking revenge is no less a monster than the man who committed the murder. This is clear because several times throughout the film, the "good guy" is referred to by objective, extraneous characters as just that - a monster. I think that's a wonderfully mature spin on what I often find to be an irredeemably childish, morally despicable genre. Then, of course, the film begins to revel in its violence, and everything that it has to say about the morality of vengeance thrillers is completely thrown out the window. I am also a big fan of Thirst.
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