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Post by VyperJMc on Dec 4, 2011 7:54:12 GMT -5
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Post by Atomsk on Dec 4, 2011 8:38:03 GMT -5
I remember reading about that on 411mania a day or two ago. I'm curious on seeing where they're going with it.
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Post by Flammable D on Dec 4, 2011 8:50:09 GMT -5
Oh very dear.
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Post by Maf on Dec 4, 2011 10:53:10 GMT -5
I will definitely watch it when it comes out. Really curious to see how they set about telling everything.
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Post by Harry on Dec 5, 2011 2:10:45 GMT -5
Nicholas Cage better be the leading man. Him or Mel Gibson.
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Post by zee on Dec 11, 2011 1:16:42 GMT -5
So Ryder's getting a hell of a push, and so has Ziggler for the past few months. Both of them could end up with better spots by the end of this, which hardly ever happens. Feud of the year? Perhaps.
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Post by AD on Dec 11, 2011 1:41:20 GMT -5
I'm happy to see both guys getting moved up, but I have a few issues with the way they're pushing Ryder, in particular. I don't really like to see him portrayed as this hanger-on who needs John Cena's help and support to get over. I think this past Raw Jerry Lawler even went so far as to suggest he's only popular because he hangs out with Cena, didn't he? Maybe it's just some paranoid conspiracy theory I have, but it seems like WWE's way of taking credit for the success of a guy who went out on his own and created a following for himself without even getting on TV much.
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Post by VyperJMc on Dec 11, 2011 12:56:39 GMT -5
You're not wrong, AD. That's exactly what's happening. I don't care though, since Ryder is mediocre at best.
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Post by zee on Dec 11, 2011 14:18:44 GMT -5
Never thought about it that way, but that's probably how the people who haven't been with him since the beginning feel like. Ryder isn't the best in the ring, and his promo skills are wooden at times, but damn can he make a crowd pop. The fact that people consistently go nuts for him shows something.
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Post by VyperJMc on Dec 11, 2011 15:13:04 GMT -5
They only pop cause his gimmick is hot right now. If it weren't for twitter or whatever social media sites he used to get over, he'd have been future endeavored a long time ago & nobody would've cared.
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Post by Harry on Dec 12, 2011 17:58:09 GMT -5
Which makes him smart.
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Post by Flammable D on Dec 12, 2011 18:06:29 GMT -5
They only pop cause his gimmick is hot right now. If it weren't for twitter or whatever social media sites he used to get over, he'd have been future endeavored a long time ago & nobody would've cared. That's such flawed logic I can't come up with a good enough rebuttal.
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Post by VyperJMc on Dec 13, 2011 3:37:46 GMT -5
They only pop cause his gimmick is hot right now. If it weren't for twitter or whatever social media sites he used to get over, he'd have been future endeavored a long time ago & nobody would've cared. That's such flawed logic I can't come up with a good enough rebuttal. They don't like him because he's good in the ring or on the mic or because he's charismatic or has "it"... he's none of those things. They like him cause of twitter & youtube. I'm not faulting him for doing whatever he had to do to get over, I just don't like people putting mediocrity up on a pedestal.
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Post by Maf on Dec 13, 2011 19:12:12 GMT -5
....KAAAAANNNNEEEE!!!!!!!
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Post by zee on Dec 18, 2011 23:01:26 GMT -5
I really really thought the Ryder title win was booked well. The Bryan one, not so much. Should've waited till Mania, unless he's turning heel.
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